Crystal Palace Campaign

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CONTENTS - LIKES and DISLIKES

Area 1a - Site of National Sports Centre (if building is demolished)

Sports & Play

Green

Red

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Play park/open play area

7

0

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Skateboard park/skate park/roller rink

12

1

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Marked out pitches - football, rounders, cricket, etc.

8

1

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Wet weather play area

3

0

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Children's/teenagers recreation area

10

0

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Staffed sports area (pitch & putt, boules, tennis courts)

8

0

Parkland/Landscaping

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Revert to open parkland

27

0

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Parkland with trees and shrubs

19

0

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Park with surface delineated (by planting?) to show where fountain once was

2

0

Water Features

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Water area/lake - ecological interest

9

1

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Lake - aesthetic interest

6

0

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Water play area

4

1

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Restored fountains

10

1

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Other water features - ideas?

2

0

Park Facilities

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Cafe/restaurant

17

0

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BBQ area and juice bar

2

9

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Toilets & First Aid

18

0

Education/interpretation (ecology/biology/archaeology/history)

12

0

Special Attractions

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Location for children's zoo

9

0

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Suitable commercial enterprise (e.g. shop selling souvenirs)- ideas?

3

0

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Sculpture gallery in spine building

2

2

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Outdoor events space (flexible)

2

0

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Green arena -'natural' turf arena for events, etc.

11

0

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Sports centre building relic as a landscape feature (like Coventry Cathedral)

1

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Area 1b - National Sports Centre Building (if building remains but is no longer needed for sport)

Special Attractions in Building

Green

Red

Pavilion

0

0

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Dinosaur interpretation centre

2

1

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Museum/heritage centre

22

0

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Exhibition hall/gallery

4

0

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Concert hall

20

0

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Restaurant with pony & trap access

3

1

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Conference centre

4

4

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Indoor fun fair

0

13

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Ice/roller rink

6

0

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Wet weather play park

7

0

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Community horticultural centre

5

0

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Eden project-style facility - i.e. enclosed parkland

3

2

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The palace x-scape - bowling, cinema, retail

0

25

Butterfly house

13

0

Retain Building Spine Structure Only

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`Spine' building retained as landscape/heritage value

1

8

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Retain diving platforms/other architectural features

2

12

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Area 2 - Dinosaurs, Lakes and Farm

Landscaping

Green

Red

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Improve landscaping

7

0

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Replace unsightly fencing

21

0

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Improve paths

8

0

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Restore water feature by bridge

15

0

Facilities

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New park facilities building consolidating existing café/ crèche/ boating/ toilets/ changing

4

0

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Expand car park

0

14

o

Cover part of area with perforated geodesic-style structure somewhere to get out of the rain

0

1

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Farm buildings converted for restaurant/art gallery/ranger HQ

5

1

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Convert old stables and surrounding area to garden centre

3

1

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Opportunity for commercial enterprises

0

8

Use of Water

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Power boats (toy)

2

4

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Boating lake

16

0

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Fishing area

3

1

Zoo/Children's Farm

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Children's zoo area

14

0

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Enhance urban farm

2

0

Education/lnterpretation

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Farm buildings and surrounding area - educational use

6

0

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New dinosaur interpretation centre

1

1

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Natural history museum and zoo

18

0

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Retain/improve dinosaur area

13

0

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Complete geological/evolution display

7

0

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Dinosaur theme park open air

3

1

Wildlife

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Wildlife especially birds

16

0

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Consider this as major ecology area(farm site and area up toward Crystal Palace station)

9

0

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Area 3 - The Old Cricket Pitch

Informal Leisure & Sorts

Green

Red

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Area for children's birthday parties

2

0

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Adventure playground?

22

0

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Junior cycle area

5

0

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Playground

10

0

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Roller rink, skate park, football pitches

10

1

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Informal sports

2

0

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Cricket & football area

11

0

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Develop activities within existing landscape

5

0

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Retain for sports with new facilities i.e. pavilion

2

1

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Leave it as is, with informal sports use

5

0

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Pony rides

9

0

Landscaping

Relocate playground/facilities buildings to zone 2 or 4 - restore landscape

0

0

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Different mowing regimes for sport, informal use and ecology

8

1

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Horticultural excellence

19

0

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Improve paths, strolling potential

13

0

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Tree collection - more diversity

20

0

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Extend English landscape (area 4)

4

0

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Open up conservation area - remove fencing and open up wooded area near Penge gate

26

0

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Landscape car park

5

0

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Better park entrances

4

0

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Landscape or demolish depot building

7

1

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Restore Royal Naval Volunteer Reserves monument

8

0

Attractions

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Inner city farm where depot building is

8

0

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Markets

1

5

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Reintroduction of seasonal activities - little train, ice rink, ski slope, archery, etc.

17

0

Other

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Parking/overflow parking

2

4

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Dog assault course - special dog area

6

0

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Area 4 - English landscape

Maze

Green

Red

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Restore existing maze

23

0

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Improve design of maze

7

0

Fishing Lake

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Enhanced fishing

0

7

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Open up anglers lake

6

0

oo

Improve fencing around fishing lake

2

0

Concert Bowl

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Refurbish/enhance concert bowl

22

0

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Remove concert bowl alltogether

4

1

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Retain concert bowl but replace stage, speakers, etc

18

0

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Reduce or remove lake - replace with grass

1

14

Landscaping

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Plant more trees

14

0

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Remove Gustafson 'cascade' - landscape rear of concert lake

22

0

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Complete English landscape gardens

7

0

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New water features - cascades

6

0

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Tudor garden

3

2

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Wildlife area - increase ecological diversity

14

0

Other

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Reinstate race track as pedestrian, cycling, roller blading use

5

3

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Restore track for historic motor events

11

11

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Better north/south links to concert bowl

3

0

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New art feature

9

1

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Retain as noise/activity-free area except during concerts

9

0

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Area 5 - Hilltop & Caravan Site

Heritage

Green

Red

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Crystal Palace Museum

18

0

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Heritage centre with cafe & toilets (could also incorporate subway)

11

0

Visitor Attraction - see also ** below

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Rebuild the original Crystal Palace, but smaller

17

15

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Landmark installation or building

5

0

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Butterfly house

2

3

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Park related visitor centre: butterflies, museum, views & ecology

15

0

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Horticultural centre

9

0

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Viewing facility (tower or platform)

24

0

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Water based exhibition, education and play area

2

1

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Sculpture park

3

2

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Market

4

7

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Art exhibition

8

0

o

Limited development only - focussed on culture and wildlife - concentrated by Norwood gate

1

0

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Water chute

2

6

Landscaping/ParkIWildlife

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Formal gardens

7

0

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Wildlife area (with interpretation)

17

0

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Part wildlife, part formal landscape

3

0

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** Glazed escarpment building

26

18

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Predominately park/landscaping

8

0

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Trees - mix of formal and managed woodland

10

0

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Pensioners' garden on site of caravan park

3

0

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Restored Rockhills as garden demonstration area

6

0

Commercial Development

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Hotel

0

24

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Entertainment venue

3

13

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Leisure complex

1

27

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Cinema, museum, theatre

4

8

Informal Leisure

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Pony rides, skating, roller rink

5

1

o

New lawns for informal play, etc.

1

0

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Cafe on edge of park

13

0

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Small facilities

2

0

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Open air pool

2

0

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Picnic area

9

0

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Play area

6

0

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Skate park, roller rink on reservoir

5

0

Archaeology

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Unearth foundations

19

0

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Delineate aspects of Paxton's palace

16

0

Subway

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Open up subway for viewing

32

0

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Wine bar/bistro

1

7

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Incorporate subway into a limited development

17

0

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Subway used for art and music

16

0

Entrance & Boundary Treatment

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Building on triangle corner - new park entrance

1

2

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Create new park edge - reconfigure bus terminus (see below)

3

1

Bus Station

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Remove bus station and develop scheme use in conjunction with subway (e.g. benefiting local economy)

5

2

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Reduce bus station area and move nearer to station

1

2

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Reconfigure bus stand - could be long and thin rather than short and fat

4

0

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Move to site opposite Anerley station

3

0

Other

o

Park ranger HQ

1

0

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Car park for Triangle

5

17

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Retain/enhance caravan site

12

0

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Routemaster bus on the site - (classroom use!)

6

0

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Amenity horticultural learning centre

16

0

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Area 6 - Terraces and Below

Restoration

Green

Red

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Restore main steps

17

0

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Restore terraces completely

40

1

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Restore terraces in part

5

0

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Restore sphinxes

19

0

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Box hedging behind terrace balustrades (to protect from damage)

0

2

Outdoor Activities

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Archery/jousting/electronic skeet and clay pigeon shooting

3

1

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Tarmac terrace for roller skating, skate boarding

1

13

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Cycle track

5

1

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Play area for children

16

0

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Water play

2

0

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Winter ice skiting

13

0

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Kite flying contests

7

0

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Sports pitches (grass)

4

0

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Giant chess board

8

0

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Hot air balloon area

5

0

Soft Landscaping

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"Green over" most of the terraces

5

1

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Remove car parking and access roads

6

1

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Formal lawns and arboretum

4

0

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Improve drainage on terrace for open space and wildlife

5

0

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Restore original rose garden in this area

9

0

Water Features

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New fountains

12

0

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Restore fountains and tazzas

13

0

Visitor Attractions

ooo

Winter gardens

3

0

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Visiting exhibitions/changing displays

7

0

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Location for big events/concerts

2

1

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Major-exhibition facility (mid terrace)

2

5

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Botanical glasshouse

16

1

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Sculpture park

8

7

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Markets

1

2

Education/Heritage

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New Crystal Palace/Great Exhibition Museum

11

3

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Visitor centre, Crystal Palace shop/souvenirs

13

0

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Exhibition - encourage cut and cover development to link terraces and top of park

3

1

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Camera obscura on tower with base, with Brunei and Baird exhibition areas

8

0

Car Parking

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Car park under terraces (with travellator linking transport interchange and top site/parade)

4

12

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Major car parking capability for special events (lower terrace)

1

13

Other

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Sports accommodation

0

3

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Bandstand to same design as the original

6

0

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Improved entrance to park and Anerley Hill boundary

5

0

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BBQ area

0

7

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Access under terraces

4

0

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Area 7 - Station Area

Station Improvements

Green

Red

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Restore station

20

0

o

Demolish existing ticket hall, rebuild original

1

0

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Improve station forecourt

4

0

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Relocate bus station & create transport hub

5

3

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Open station area - improve pedestrian access

11

0

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Transport hub area & new access to park & National Sports Centre

6

0

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Cycle hire

8

0

New Development

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Sports accommodation

5

0

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Commercial, hotel, retail (over platforms)

6

20

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Visitor centre

4

0

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Museum in old booking hall

8

0

Park Entrance

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Creation of beautiful entrance

20

1

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Entrance road/improved junctions

5

1

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Level access

3

0

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National Sports Centre entrance

8

0

Other

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Create maintenance yard/offices

2

0

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General Park Issues

Sport

Green

Red

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Cross country course

4

0

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Jogging/walking fitness trail

12

0

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Mountain bike course

3

1

Access

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Reinstate central axis (walkway)

7

0

oo

Replace race track as cycle track and disability access

2

0

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Disability access

15

0

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Vehicular access/parking strategy

5

0

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Improve paths

6

0

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Better links between top of park and station/lower park

5

0

Landscaping

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More flowers

10

0

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More trees

17

0

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More shrubs

5

0

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More wildlife areas

10

0

ooo oo

Bridle track

5

0

Other

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Land train

7

0

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Quiet area somewhere on the park - no skates, trains, dogs, sports

10

0

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Dog exclusion area somewhere on the park

8

0

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Park public address system, CCTV surveillance

4

6

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Hire equipment - cycles, push chairs, invalid chairs

8

0

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Facilities/retail/amenities in surrounding town centres to compliment facilities

4

0

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Signage & interpretation

11

0

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Park shelters

9

0

Security and Health and Safety - Access

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Provide disabled access

18

0

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Lock up the park at night

4

0

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Access to selected areas at night

7

0

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Park open all hours

0

14

Lighting

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No lighting in the park

1

1

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Selective lighting

11

0

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All park paths lit

7

0

Policing

o

Security by Metropolitan Police

1

0

ooo oo o

Special park police

5

1

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Security provided by rangers

10

0

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Full time rangers

21

0

o

Community wardens (volunteers)

1

0

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Help points and medical facilities

6

0

Traffic in the Park

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No private cars except disabled

11

1

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Private car parking for events

6

2

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Periphery parking only

12

0

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Once the options weighting exercise had been completed, the facilitators and task group members reported back to the full meeting on:

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Discussion of Options Weighting

 

AREA 3

 

AREA 4

 

AREA 5

 

AREA 6

 

AREA 7

 

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